# New Install 4.1.1 - No Modes

**URL:** <https://discourse.processing.org/t/new-install-4-1-1-no-modes/40252>\
**Category:** Beginners\
**Created:** [December 21, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://discourse.processing.org/t/new-install-4-1-1-no-modes/40252 "2022-12-21T18:58:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![rcriley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@rcriley](https://discourse.processing.org/u/rcriley)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://discourse.processing.org/t/new-install-4-1-1-no-modes/40252/1 "2022-12-21T18:58:01Z")

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Hello -

I work in the IT Dept at a University. One of our faculty members plans to use Processing in the coming semester. I’m working to install it in a few computer labs for our students. They would also like to use the p5 mode.

Unfortunately, after installing the app, I do not see any modes available in the “Add Mode” section (Libraries, Tools, and Examples all have options for me to install). I tried installing on both my Mac and Windows computers and don’t see any modes to install in either OS.

For fun, I also installed 3.5.4 - I do see Modes available for install in this version, but not 4.1.1 (which is the version the faculty would like to use).

Am I missing a step in the install process for 4.1.1? I downloaded the zip file, extracted the folder, and launched the processing.exe app.

Any insight would be helpful! Thank you 🙂

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**Author:** ![GoToLoop](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/discourse.processing.org/gotoloop/32/86_2.png) [@GoToLoop](https://discourse.processing.org/u/GoToLoop)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://discourse.processing.org/t/new-install-4-1-1-no-modes/40252/2 "2022-12-21T19:17:35Z")

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> [@rcriley](#):
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> For fun, I also installed 3.5.4 - I do see Modes available for install in this version, but not 4.1.1.

For stability reasons, especially considering it’s a university place, stick w/ the old P3.5.4. 🪄  
P4.1.1 is still a buggy beta version IMO. 🐛

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**Author:** ![josephh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/discourse.processing.org/josephh/32/210_2.png) [@josephh](https://discourse.processing.org/u/josephh)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://discourse.processing.org/t/new-install-4-1-1-no-modes/40252/3 "2022-12-21T22:06:10Z")

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Hi @rcriley,

Welcome to the forum! 😉

> [@rcriley](#):
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> I do not see any modes available in the “Add Mode” section (Libraries, Tools, and Examples all have options for me to install)

This is related to this issue on the Processing 4 GitHub repository:

> <https://github.com/benfry/processing4/issues/613>
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> \## Description
> In Processing 4.1.1 it is currently seemingly impossible to down…load and switch between modes.
> 
> \## Expected Behavior
> In Processing 3.5.4 if you open the "Modes" tab in the "Contribution Manager" window, there is a list of modes you can potentially install. At the very least you should find "R Mode" and "Python Mode". You can download any of these (the ones that are supported anyways) and than can use them in Processing.
> 
> \## Current Behavior
> In Processing 4.1.1 (and 4.1 and possibly earlier versions I haven't tested) when you click "Manage Modes..." you are taken to an empty "Modes" tab in the "Contribution Manager" window. There are no modes ready to download, therefore you are stuck in Java mode.
> 
> \## Steps to Reproduce
> 1. Run Processing 4.1.\*
> 2. Click on the selector with the word "Java" and a little downward triangle in it
> 3. Click on "Manage Modes..."
> 
> \## Your Environment
> \* Processing version: 4.1.1
> \* Operating System and OS version: Windows 11 Pro x64 22H2 Build: 22621.900
> 
> \## Possible Causes / Solutions
> Not sure about the cause but I found a workaround (though haven't tested fully).
> I downloaded Processing 3.5.4 and installed Python mode on it.
> I than opened Processing 4.1.1 and I found that it also had Python mode installed.
> The Modes tab was still empty, but apparently the mode for 3.5.4 was saved in the same place 4.1.1 was looking, and it at least thinks it can be used. I'm not sure how well it works.
> 
> Image:
> !\[image\](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/6439157/204891586-96bee15a-c6b1-41ae-a295-c66902c92a62.png)

Also related to this thread:

> [@Encountering bugs in Processing 4.1.1 on Windows 11](https://discourse.processing.org/t/encountering-bugs-in-processing-4-1-1-on-windows-11/39949):
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> I have been using Processing 3.5.4 for a while but yesterday I decided to download Processing 4.1.1. I found a couple of bugs that are mostly just really annoying. I have read around online but have not found them mentioned (or solved) anywhere. I found the following bugs/issues: There are no modes in the modes list. Most values in the settings don’t get saved when changed. (eg: Sketchbook folder and Sketch name) But some do (like Disable HiDPI Scaling and Language) Some times (but not alwa…

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**Author:** ![erkosone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@erkosone](https://discourse.processing.org/u/erkosone)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 6:12am UTC](https://discourse.processing.org/t/new-install-4-1-1-no-modes/40252/4 "2022-12-22T06:12:20Z")

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Hola, una solucion inicial es la siguiente…

Crea un proyecto para Android en processing 3.x, abrelo con processing 4.1 y el ide te pedira que instales el modo android, se descargara automaticamente.

Hay algun bug con una clase que ha desaparecido en java 17 y este es un error comun por ahora no solucionado. Aunque el modo Android funciona muy bien tras instalarlo. Yo desarrollo juegos 2d con mi propio motor en processing y todo funciona bien a nivel de codigo en Android, es una pena que esto este “roto” todavia.

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**Author:** ![erkosone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@erkosone](https://discourse.processing.org/u/erkosone)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 6:14am UTC](https://discourse.processing.org/t/new-install-4-1-1-no-modes/40252/5 "2022-12-22T06:14:09Z")

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Aqui tienes un proyecto en blanco para abrir con tu IDE y que te instale el Android modo 😉

> **[sketch\_221222a.zip](https://www.dropbox.com/s/hgv4rsmm9kunwca/sketch_221222a.zip?dl=0)**
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> Shared with Dropbox

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**Author:** ![rcriley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@rcriley](https://discourse.processing.org/u/rcriley)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://discourse.processing.org/t/new-install-4-1-1-no-modes/40252/6 "2022-12-22T12:49:28Z")

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Thank you! The documentation in that issue helped me with the workaround!