# Is Processing still gonna get updates?
**URL:** https://discourse.processing.org/t/is-processing-still-gonna-get-updates/42984
**Category:** Community
**Created:** [October 16, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://discourse.processing.org/t/is-processing-still-gonna-get-updates/42984 "2023-10-16T12:18:33Z")
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Hi! I heard the processing editor is not gonna any updates from the processing foundation.
I also have a few questions regarding processing in general.
Is processing as a language still getting updated, or is the foundation putting the money in a new editor / project? From what i heard Ben Fry left the project because of that…
Is there an official processing android app or is APDE the one?
-Libby
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That’s a good question and I think this forum deserves an answer.
I asked for a statement in the last discussion regarding the topic and the discussion has been closed.
Now it’s coming up again.
Not a surprise.
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hello. ive been away from processing for years for reasons i wont bore you with. returning today to discover this hullabaloo. i _think_ from [what ive read](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37760363) that processing still has a future, but… does it?
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I first joined the Processing forum in December 2008 and since then I have visited the forum nearly everyday to answer members’ questions where I could. I have been through 3-4 forum changes, used every version of Processing since 1.2.1. and created 10-11 libraries and tools for others to enjoy. I did all this because I recognized the value of the Processing software in introducing absolute beginners to the joy and creativity of programming. After reading Ben Fry’s comments I had serious concerns over the future of Processing and still do.
It would be interesting to hear other members’ thoughts on the future of the Processing software (in all its forms including p5.js) and how they would like to see it develop.
I do not want to discuss the Processing Foundations ideology because it runs the risk of becoming contentious leading to personal attacks and ill-considered comments, so _ **please think before posting** _.
I also think this is an opportunity for the Processing Foundation to tell us their vision for Processing and how they plan to maintain and develop the Processing software in the future. @sableraph
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I’ve only had supportive and constructive interactions with members of the Processing Foundation. When they officially respond to Ben Fry’s comments, I’m sure it will be thoughtful.
Processing and Arduino were the first coding environments that fit my brain. They were fun to work in and made me feel like I could create anything. When I started teaching with them, my students felt the same way. I wandered into Processing Community Day at UCLA in 2019 to find inspiration. I drew connections between land art and the internet, hacked a toy server, cast spells with code, and even gave a lightning talk despite my social anxiety. Dorothy Santos invited me to volunteer, and it felt like the cool kids had welcomed me into their club.
I remember watching the discussion between Ben Fry, Lauren McCarthy, Casey Reas, and Dan Shiffman. It moved me to see people who inspire me so much surrounded by the community they cultivated. Cut to the present tense and it feels like watching my favorite band break up.
Processing and p5.js are fundamental to the ways I learn, create, and teach. The community and the software both need investment. Balance is a matter of perspective.
I’d love to see estimates for the effort required to resolve all open issues in Processing and p5.js. That includes their cores, core libraries (i.e., sound), and editors. The platforms are stable, so what investments are needed to sustain them as of today? What’s the ideal scenario on mobile? AR/VR?
I’d also love to see a new Python strategy. Python is the most popular programming language in the world, especially among beginners. One should generally meet the world where it is.
[Jython](https://www.jython.org/) is progressing very slowly and its limitations are well known. [py5](https://py5coding.org/) is already great and could grow in interesting directions. For one data point, the Raspberry Pi Foundation mimics py5 [in the browser](https://projects.raspberrypi.org/en/projects/encoded-art/0). They used a shim I wrote years ago to make p5.js work with [Skulpt](https://skulpt.org/). That feels a lot like the current Jython situation. [PyScript](https://pyscript.net/) looks promising here.
It’d be neat to write a sketch in Python that moves seamlessly between web and native based on the coder’s needs.
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> [@mcintyre](#):
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> [PyScript](https://pyscript.net/) looks promising here.
Some PyScript examples using [p5\*js](http://p5js.org/reference/) and/or [Pjs](https://gotoloop.github.io/processing-js.github.io/reference/):
> [@ASCII visualization issue](https://discourse.processing.org/t/ascii-visualization-issue/42041/11):
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> Just converted my 2 Python Mode sketches to run on just PyScript w/o any packages. [“Unicode Letters Test”](https://PyScript.com/view/37e29c80-c433-4dca-a8bc-4b7207b089a8/f540a5ff-ca53-4e5a-b149-a61df207cd01/latest) is using library p5\*js while [“Unicode Chars Test”](https://PyScript.com/view/37e29c80-c433-4dca-a8bc-4b7207b089a8/9c2d93cb-4168-45d9-a58e-9aea24ce8f40/latest) is in Pjs. “Unicode Letters Test”: “index.html”: \ \ \ \