# Is P3D inherently slow and/or is there a fast alternative?

**URL:** <https://discourse.processing.org/t/is-p3d-inherently-slow-and-or-is-there-a-fast-alternative/22889>\
**Category:** Coding Questions\
**Created:** [July 28, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://discourse.processing.org/t/is-p3d-inherently-slow-and-or-is-there-a-fast-alternative/22889 "2020-07-28T22:28:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![glv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/discourse.processing.org/glv/32/18785_2.png) [@glv](https://discourse.processing.org/u/glv)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 9:50am UTC](https://discourse.processing.org/t/is-p3d-inherently-slow-and-or-is-there-a-fast-alternative/22889/5 "2020-07-29T09:50:06Z")

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A related discussion:

> [@P3D performance with 62500 boxes](https://discourse.processing.org/t/p3d-performance-with-62500-boxes/3821):
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> I have a program that I wrote a long time ago using the GLGraphics library and that I’m trying to port into Processing 3.0. It is a program that has 62500 boxes independently moving all over the place. In P151 I used coordinate and color lists and updated them using updateVertices(coords); and updateColors(colors). Even with 62500 boxes it ran perfectly at 60 fps. Now in P3 I have created a PShape(GROUP) called thisModel and it contains 62500 PShapes or boxes. When I try to translate the boxes i…

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